Shell ejecting MP5 info

[Ziggy]

just wanted to let everyone know of the new shell ejecting mp5 that adds to realism in games. Shells are set to a penny a piece so you no longer have to spend $20 for 5 shells. I havent seen it out yet, and this info is minimal but i believe it is still being developed and not out yet. If anyone has more info feel free to add to this. If they dont scrap the project i think itll be a great step forward for true mil-sim.

[Phoenix]

from what I've seen, shells have other problems that people don't like dealing with. Improper fits (pressure leaks causing lower velocity) and ejection jams. What is the construction of the shells? Having shells on the floor of a structure (or say at CQB City) could cause a slip hazard, and heck leaving your shells in the field could be an environmental problem.

 

I'm down for realism, but shells seem to be more hassle than they're worth. I know of no one who has a revolver (that said I can see someone bringing one Saturday...) and I think the only reason shotguns using shells as magazines are catching on is because they were the last weapon that lacked the realism the others had.

[Tank]

jamming is the biggest problem that ive seen so far the only shell ejector that i have seen that is sucess full is the pump action shot guns the lever action shot guns still have some problems ejecting shells and like phoenix said also another thing is lover ammo capacity instead of 400 rnds in a mag you have 20 to 30 rnds.

[Ziggy]

True true. I did own two of the marushin shell ejecting g21 glocks and they jammed alot. The shells i believe were to be made of metal but i doubt that considering their price for them is a penny each. Heres another issue, most shell ejecting guns are 8mm...they do have 6mm but because of the size it makes the shells easier to fit without more material per shell. Idk just seems like and issue too.

Phoenix said:

from what I've seen, shells have other problems that people don't like dealing with. Improper fits (pressure leaks causing lower velocity) and ejection jams. What is the construction of the shells? Having shells on the floor of a structure (or say at Airsoft Battlegrounds or CQB City) could cause a slip hazard, and heck leaving your shells in the field could be an environmental problem.

 

I'm down for realism, but shells seem to be more hassle than they're worth. I know of no one who has a revolver (that said I can see someone bringing one Saturday...) and I think the only reason shotguns using shells as magazines are catching on is because they were the last weapon that lacked the realism the others had.

[Derek Ewen]

That sounds pretty cool! I don't see how they jam though. My real-steel shotgun doesn't jam, so they should make the shells and ejecting systems the same or very similar to their real-steel counterparts. The overall idea is awesome and it would be cool if this one fixed the jamming problems.

[Phoenix]

The difference is how they are ejected. In a real-steel weapon the shells are ejected using excess gas released by the bullet firing and the mechanics of the firing system. To recreate that in an airsoft gun would require a gas OR mechanical ejection system. About the best airsoft gun I saw with realistic ejecting shells was a 6mm airsoft cap gun. Each shell was loaded with a high powered cap and a BB. The AEG's mechanics were only used to fire the firing pin and move the bolt cover thus ejecting the shell. It was really neat but hardly practical.

 

Remember the operation of a real steel weapon is (generally) so much less complex than that of any airsoft weapon.

Derek Ewen said:

That sounds pretty cool! I don't see how they jam though. My real-steel shotgun doesn't jam, so they should make the shells and ejecting systems the same or very similar to their real-steel counterparts. The overall idea is awesome and it would be cool if this one fixed the jamming problems.

[Ziggy]

And if they made the airsoft gun more similar to real steel even more, there could be more laws put into affect limiting it just as they have done with gbb m4s (lower reciever was too similar to real steel).