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No BBs, No hit. Thats where I stand.
While I was specifically referring to the grenades idea, I will go ahead and answer your questions.
The whole "bang kill" is situational. If someone just stuck their gun in a random window and yelled "BANG BANG BANG" I might not take it. Blind fire bang kills never count in my book. This is not simulation, or skill. This is just unsportsmanlike, akin to the playground "nu uh, I have shields."
Where as someone happens upon me with my back turned and calmly says "bang" I will probably take it. We play bang kills as a courtesy only. That person who snuck up on me and quietly took me out had the courtesy to not shoot the heck out of me. I appreciate that, and like I said. I would likely take it.
Rubber knives? If you check out my profile, you will note that my gear load out includes a rubber knife. I am all for re-enactment and semi-realism.
Even so, where do you draw the line? If you can have, what essentially is, a water balloon count as a grenade, then why not a pine cone, stick, rock, or dirt clod? So then hey, why can't my "grenade" actually be a bio-weapon? So if I deploy it on the field, can it kill everyone in front of me? Am I exaggerating? Yes. But where does it end? For me, it is easy.
If the "grenade" does not deploy a shower of BBs, its not an airsoft grenade. As another example, there is a grenade that makes a loud bang. I think this is a great airsoft equivalent of a flash bang, but not an effective grenade.
From a game play standpoint, any time you start dealing in judgment calls, there is always a quagmire of discussion on what 15 feet means.
Example: I toss a dummy grenade at you. To me it looks like it lands 15 feet away. To you, you don't even know its there. I think you are cheating. Same is true with paint grenades or glorified water balloons.
No, give me an airsoft grenade that is designed to launch bbs in all directions.
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