BATTLEGROUND

Airsoft in the YubaCity / Marysville area.

Always interested in operator opinion on the new stuff. Thought If I didn't someone would.

Personally, I am not interested in getting hit with a baking soda and citric acid bomb thrown by someone who wants into my bunker.
Many discussions have circled this type of equipment in the means of carrying water balloons, to paintball "grenades" filled with water, and a few others.
I still favor the Tornado grenades, but have yet to see them used effectively. (not that a few brave souls haven't tried a few times)
How about the old tennis ball on a string routine? Flashbang sound grenades?
I can still remember a near miss from a rock, some idiot at a SacAir event threw as his "grenade".
Well, enough of me. How about you?

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i would agree with the not getting hit part but i think that it is good that companies are coming up with cheaper alternatives i do prefer a grenade that would not get paint on me or soak me and one that actually throws bb's such as the tornados but ive only seen it used sucessfully once out of many a time
The idea of grenades is awesome but I only heard of people having problems with them.
No BBs, No hit. Thats where I stand.
So you wouldn't take a surrender if someone snuck up on you? What about a rubber knife? Personally I'd take a "grenade" thrown within 15 feet or so of me, as airsoft IS a simulation of real warfare.

Edric The Chef said:
No BBs, No hit. Thats where I stand.
im with edric on this one cause too many things can happen like a grenade not killing you or what if he threw it too far? a rubber knife is a completely different case because it means that you got close enough to the other person to be able to kill them however you choose to. once again NO BBs, NO HIT.
While I was specifically referring to the grenades idea, I will go ahead and answer your questions.

The whole "bang kill" is situational. If someone just stuck their gun in a random window and yelled "BANG BANG BANG" I might not take it. Blind fire bang kills never count in my book. This is not simulation, or skill. This is just unsportsmanlike, akin to the playground "nu uh, I have shields."

Where as someone happens upon me with my back turned and calmly says "bang" I will probably take it. We play bang kills as a courtesy only. That person who snuck up on me and quietly took me out had the courtesy to not shoot the heck out of me. I appreciate that, and like I said. I would likely take it.

Rubber knives? If you check out my profile, you will note that my gear load out includes a rubber knife. I am all for re-enactment and semi-realism.

Even so, where do you draw the line? If you can have, what essentially is, a water balloon count as a grenade, then why not a pine cone, stick, rock, or dirt clod? So then hey, why can't my "grenade" actually be a bio-weapon? So if I deploy it on the field, can it kill everyone in front of me? Am I exaggerating? Yes. But where does it end? For me, it is easy.

If the "grenade" does not deploy a shower of BBs, its not an airsoft grenade. As another example, there is a grenade that makes a loud bang. I think this is a great airsoft equivalent of a flash bang, but not an effective grenade.

From a game play standpoint, any time you start dealing in judgment calls, there is always a quagmire of discussion on what 15 feet means.

Example: I toss a dummy grenade at you. To me it looks like it lands 15 feet away. To you, you don't even know its there. I think you are cheating. Same is true with paint grenades or glorified water balloons.

No, give me an airsoft grenade that is designed to launch bbs in all directions.
agreed

Edric The Chef said:
While I was specifically referring to the grenades idea, I will go ahead and answer your questions.

The whole "bang kill" is situational. If someone just stuck their gun in a random window and yelled "BANG BANG BANG" I might not take it. Blind fire bang kills never count in my book. This is not simulation, or skill. This is just unsportsmanlike, akin to the playground "nu uh, I have shields."

Where as someone happens upon me with my back turned and calmly says "bang" I will probably take it. We play bang kills as a courtesy only. That person who snuck up on me and quietly took me out had the courtesy to not shoot the heck out of me. I appreciate that, and like I said. I would likely take it.

Rubber knives? If you check out my profile, you will note that my gear load out includes a rubber knife. I am all for re-enactment and semi-realism.

Even so, where do you draw the line? If you can have, what essentially is, a water balloon count as a grenade, then why not a pine cone, stick, rock, or dirt clod? So then hey, why can't my "grenade" actually be a bio-weapon? So if I deploy it on the field, can it kill everyone in front of me? Am I exaggerating? Yes. But where does it end? For me, it is easy.

If the "grenade" does not deploy a shower of BBs, its not an airsoft grenade. As another example, there is a grenade that makes a loud bang. I think this is a great airsoft equivalent of a flash bang, but not an effective grenade.

From a game play standpoint, any time you start dealing in judgment calls, there is always a quagmire of discussion on what 15 feet means.

Example: I toss a dummy grenade at you. To me it looks like it lands 15 feet away. To you, you don't even know its there. I think you are cheating. Same is true with paint grenades or glorified water balloons.

No, give me an airsoft grenade that is designed to launch bbs in all directions.
well i think that's the point of this grenade, it has nothing to do with the 15 foot rule or any of that. it actually explodes and therefore if you are actually hit it's quite obvious and more obvious then a shower of bb's. i'm not saying i like it, im just saying that you guys may have the wrong idea about it. its for people like myself that dont want to spend $120 on something we may hardly use as opposed to his which has all the characteristics and behavior of a grenade and is nearly opposite as you said 'a rock or clump of dirt'. this explodes. That's my opinion
A link to the FAQ page.

http://www.cidasoftairsoft.com/eng/faq/main.php

Honestly, I understand what the point of this grenade is. It, in my opinion, is still no better than a paint grenade or water balloon. It has the added infamy of not being made out of a biodegradable plastic. So we would have shards of plastic laying around.

In my strong opinion, this grenade has no place on any field that I may play.

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